Most of you are probably already aware that “elite” private BitTorrent sites are locked in a perpetual race to get the latest ‘warez’, trying to outdo their competition and claim the bragging rights for having a new release “first”. For those of you that have more than one good private tracker, likely you’ve noticed that some just seem to have an advantageous angle to “the scene” and, time-after-time, come up with the latest torrents before anyone else. Certainly, if you have an account at ScT - notoriously known for the best pre-times among all private trackers - this is not new information to you. Users of public trackers such as Mininova and ThePirateBay normally have to wait for the ‘trickle-down’ effect; that is, until a torrent gets ‘leaked’ out from one of the major 0day trackers. Thus, the pre-time for a scene-released torrent at mininova will be far longer than the pre-time at ScT.
So, which tracker has the best pre-times? And how is this calculated?
Some trackers go so far as to actually publish the pre-time information along with the torrent. If we wanted to do some extremely tedious research, we could have just logged into some of these elite trackers and manually crunched the numbers, and calculated an average pre-time. But we didn’t.
Instead, we shifted our focus to an IRC pre-channel (also known as “tracers” channels) - it shows the latest scene releases as they happen. Also displayed are the exact pre-times, and the 0day tracker that “won” the race to get the torrent first. Below is an example of what is displayed for a particular race. Note that SCC won this race by having the shortest pre-time:
We won’t publish the URLs for most of these fine 0day trackers, but here’s a look at the abbreviations of the 15 major players, and total number of wins, as stipulated by the IRC channel:
- ScT — 5,646 wins.
- GFT — 3,274
- SCC — 2,238
- TL — 1,764
- RB — 1,061
- BN — 473
- FTN — 374
- FSC —244
- ScL — 201
- CT — 196
- FTWR — 149
- RTT — 127
- BMTV — 99
- DH — 32
- TBy — 22
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Thus, it would be safe to conclude that **ScT** usually has the best pre-times among all private trackers, when averaged out over a considerable time span. Having said that, **GFT** is quickly gaining ground, which is rather remarkable for a tracker that is so new to the BitTorrent scene. ### Pre-times — The Calculations So we know who \"usually\" has the best pre-times when it comes to the races, but we didn’t stop there. We wanted some real data, tangible numbers attached to each tracker. To derive an actual average pre-time for each one, we simply left the IRC channel running over a period of four days (96 consecutive hours), and processed the races. [](/images1/pretime3.jpg){: rel="lytebox"} After importing the IRC log file into a spreadsheet, we ‘averaged’ out the statistics for each race. **NOTE:** All pre-times in excess of one hour were dropped from the calculations, thus eliminating any distortion that would occur when pre-times went into days, weeks, months and even years. One hour was the cut-off. | **Tracker:** | **Avg. Pre-Time:** | **Comments:** | | **ScT** | 2 min, 4 sec. | Out of 258 races that they were in, they came first 201 times. No surprise that ScT wins! | | **BN** | 2 min, 37 sec. | Found in 142 races - won 15 (mostly Pr0n torrents were the winners - this helped immensely with their ‘average’ pre-times). Probably the most consistent pre-times of all the trackers. | | **RB** | 3 min, 5 sec. | Listed in 338 races, came first in 101 of them. Many of the wins came from ‘exclusive’ Pr0n Imagesets, whereby RB was the only contenders in the race. | | **FTN** | 3 min, 28 sec. | Found in 113 races, won only 12. However, they finished in the #2 spot a very respectable 48 times. | | **GFT** | 3 min, 43 sec. | Involved in 316 races, and won 137 of them. GFT was a ‘darkhorse’ pick, and really surprised us here. | | **FSC** | 7 min, 3 sec. | Out of 89 races, they only won the races where the content was exclusive to only them. Still, very respectable pre-times for such a small tracker. | | **SCC** | 7 min, 42 sec. | Involved in 185 races, and managed to win 44 of them. | | **CT** | 8 min, 59 sec. | Was entered in 42 races, and won only one of them. | | **ScL** | 10 min, 53 sec. | 88 races entered. Won 6. Many of their pre-times were past “one hour” and thus omitted from the stats. Perhaps their pre-times are even worse than reported here. We were disappointed in ScL’s results. | | **TL** | 13 min, 48 sec. | Involved in 282 races, won 83. Most of their wins came from being the only group in the race (i.e. the torrent is exclusive to them). Statistics for TL were difficult to calculate, since many of their pre-times exceeded our “1 hour” cutoff - thus, TL’s pre-times are actually much longer than this generous statistic. | | **TBy** | 30 min, 45 sec. | 44 races entered, 8 wins. | | **RevoTT** | 32 min, 24 sec. | Managed to win just once in 79 races. Many of RevoTT’s pre-times hit the one-hour cutoff, and weren’t calculated - this figure is generous. | | **FTWR** | 32 min, 30 sec. | Entered in 37 races, won just 2. Out of all 37 races, only six managed to break the ‘one hour’ pre deadline, the rest of the pre-times were in hours, even days. You’ll have better luck finding your torrents on mininova - they’ll probably show up there first before they do at FTWR. | | **BMTV** | 33 min, 12 sec. | 77 races, 2 wins. More than half of the torrents had a pre-time over the one-hour threshold. 33 minutes is very generous. | | **DH** | 33 min, 16 sec. | 22 races entered, no wins. Same as above. | {: width="90%" border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" align="center"} If you’d like a copy of the spreadsheet with a listing of the races and trackers, [click here](/files/pre-times.xlsx "Private Tracker pre-times and races over a 96-hour period"). Note that it was created in MS Excel 2007. 1. ##### <cite> [Blaenk Denum][1]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: Nice job man. 2. ##### <cite> [Blaenk Denum][1]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: Sorry for the spam, but just wanted to mention that the typical winners are either ScT, SCC, or GFT. GFT is like a little unheard of gem, now all the noobs are gonna jump on it. SCC is really underrated, many times beating ScT, and well we know ScT is just great. Oh yeah, and BMTV is EXTREMELY overrated. 3. ##### <cite> Nooblar </cite> Says: What does GFT acronym actually mean? Never heard of it. 4. ##### <cite> [remicks][2]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: ScT and GFT are also 2 of the coolest sites ever, the mods and admin are good people and the IRC channels are always fun  5. ##### <cite> BarryWhite </cite> Says: i think it stands for GForces Tracker. 6. ##### <cite> weaana </cite> Says: good one again think u missed out pisexy great pres 7. ##### <cite> Lox </cite> Says: GFT is a great site. One of the nicest community around. It also has no ratio rules. 8. ##### <cite> Random </cite> Says: GFT has a lot of wins due to the XXX IMGSETS but they are still a top 4 tracker. FTN is highly overrated, SCC is good for the average newbs, ScT is for the people who want speed, pres, community and content. 9. ##### <cite> RANDOM </cite> Says: what site is BN? 10. ##### <cite> [Blaenk Denum][1]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: Hey what tracer channel did you use? From what server? 11. ##### <cite> Kos </cite> Says: How long does it take from a release on private sites leak onto the public sites? If we’re talking about an hour or two I’m not exactly worried. It looks like you have to be logged in and constantly press the refresh button to notice the time difference between those private trackers. 12. ##### <cite> [P2P][3]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: This is from irc.p2p-net.eu #Tracers 13. ##### <cite> Ale </cite> Says: How can i get a registrated nick there? where can i register? 14. ##### <cite> [P2P][3]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: do /msg nickserv register and a help notice should appear 15. ##### <cite> Andrew </cite> Says: You should do the fastest trackers next  16. ##### <cite> n00b </cite> Says: \# 012 • P2P Says: 22.07.08 at 1:53 pm This is from irc.p2p-net.eu #Tracers Its actuly from ScT.Tracers. n00b 17. ##### <cite> Ale </cite> Says: Thanks for helping P2P 18. ##### <cite> seedlah </cite> Says: How many really care if its upped 1min or 5mins after pre?or even 10 mins?Also,what to do one site that has 1min pretime but 1,000 members and no one is seeding,when i can join TL for example or TB that they have 150,000+ / 40,000+ members each.Still you dont lose even one rls,okay sometimes you may have to wait like 2 mins more than the other trackers but for sure you can always seed back and you know that the torrent will be there at top speed. Dont curse me,but i think that whole thing”who had it first”is a bit overestimated.Thus its my opinion only  Props to ScT for their amazing stats on wining  Only positive thing from all those competitions,is that we are the winners at the very end,since everyone tries to improve  19. ##### <cite> dafunks </cite> Says: FTN isn’t all about pretimes, I’m sure all the members are happy to wait the extra estimated 60 seconds and remain part of something that is that little bit more special. That’s my opinion anyway. It’s a shame that the tracer chan this was taken from doesn’t show more sites. Sites like FTS have constantly good pretimes that haven’t been highlighted. Well done to GFT, great site and well deserved highlight  20. ##### <cite> [P2P-NET.eu][3]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: 016 • n00b Says: 23.07.08 at 2:12 am 012 • P2P Says: 22.07.08 at 1:53 pm This is from irc.p2p-net.eu #Tracers Its actuly from ScT.Tracers. n00b Actually… ScT doesnt have a stats bot first of all so you wouldnt be able to check the number of total wins.. while as irc.P2P-NET.eu #Tracers does.. but some screenies are from ScT.. but its mostly from irc.p2p-net.eu because the person who wrote this article is in my Tracers right now, which pwns the shit outta ScT interms of accuracy, # of sites included, and it allows for Site Admins to add their own bots instead of using a relay from multiple irc announces as ScT does, ALSO making it more accurate and faster. So your nick should be changed from n00b so semi-n00b.  peace 21. ##### <cite> Random </cite> Says: @ SPX Yout might wanna have a word with lart and discuss that tc tracers isn’t as good / accurate you make it out to be. 22. ##### <cite> [P2P-NET.eu][3]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: @ Feefee On numerous occasions its has announced races faster, many times it announces the same time as ScT’s but never seems to be slower. 23. ##### <cite> Trackback :: [SceneAccess - Page 56 - TORRENTs.RO][4]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> \[...\] \[obiectiv\]Cum zicea si maddoxro sunt foarte multe alternative. Pentru cei care vor pretime : Private Trackers With The Best Pre-Times \| THE source for BitTorrent & P2P Tips, Tricks and Info… . Invitatie puteti face rost pe oricare dintre trackerele alea, nu e foarte greu de \[...\] 24. ##### <cite> SCAN </cite> Says: lol FTS , suxk ass , tak2suxcocksitekiller and is that site still living? yep sct scc way on top, just dont forget about ths & soon again bsc for good pre’s and speed #pre & tracers nice way to check wah where & how indeed,, 25. ##### <cite> Rawr </cite> Says: Stupid way of calculating things. Unique torrents shoulden’t count as wins, its not a true race. if u calculated it fairly, SCC, ScT, and FTN much more even to eachother (though ScT still wins out) 26. ##### <cite> Trackback :: [GFTracker (GFT) : Ratio free private tracker – How to get invited \| Download Link Experts][5]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> \[...\] over 6000 torrents and has a user base of around 1700 members. The pre times on this tracker are nothing short of amazing. Apart from scene releases, GFT have added several of their own packs (movies pack, TV series \[...\] 27. ##### <cite> PEEPOLE </cite> Says: Ha! These stats are old! ScT lost their axx so now their numbers are in the toilet. And GFT only gets alot of wins because they upload individual dvdrip release while all other trackers release them all together as a pack (no race). If they did race them GFT would be a lowly track like TL with only a few wins under their belt each week. SCC is on top cause they are the best. Fastest pre time, fastest speeds, best content. 28. ##### <cite> PRINTQ </cite> Says: Yes PEEPOLE you are right: From the p2p-net.eu bot: This is a list of sites and the number of wins over the last year. SCC: 3999, GFT: 3423, ScT: 2722, SiT: 852, PT: 531, TL: 466, TD: 187, CT: 156, ACE: 146, TBy: 96, DH: 90, RTT: 69, TC: 52, AL: 50, ScL: 40, HT: 36, TiT: 27, SCHD: 25, THS: 14, RB: 12,FTN: 9, FTWR: 7, THB: 7, UB: 6, BMTV: 4, PTN: 4, BN: 1, UK-T-: 1, What?: 1 29. ##### <cite> j0z </cite> Says: I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IF THEY DID THIS TEST AGAIN AS I KNOW A FEW TRACKERS IN THAT LIST WHICH PRE TIME HAVE CHANGED  Also could someone please tell me the IRC chan where these pretimes are? thanks 30. ##### <cite> Anon </cite> Says: Is that much time difference that big of a deal? I mean, i love pre-times, but not enough to understand this I guess. I can wait a whole 10 minutes on said tracker rather than dying to get on the one that gets/get them 10 minutes quicker… 31. ##### <cite> [UnDeaD][6]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> Says: [http://www.scenedemon.com/signup.php][7]{: rel="nofollow"} come and join us.. 32. ##### <cite> Trackback :: [Top 11 pre-time trackers - Torrent Invites! Get your free private torrent tracker invites !][8]{: rel="external nofollow"} </cite> \[...\] Top 11 pre-time trackers #1 SCC — > Pre-time: 54 seconds #2 FTN –> Pre-time: 58 seconds #3 BN –> Pre-time: 1 minute, 27 seconds #4 CT –> Pre-time: 1 minute, 36 seconds #5 ScT –> Pre-time: 1 minute, 40 seconds #6 GFT –> Pre-time: 1 minute, 58 seconds #7 FSC –> Pre-time: 1 minute, 58 seconds #8 RB –> Pre-time: 2 minutes, 15 seconds #9 RTT –> Pre-time: 2 minutes, 48 seconds #10 TBy –> Pre-time: 6 minutes, 44 seconds #11 TL –> Pre-time: 8 minutes, 32 seconds Well, i dont really know if that’s the correct pre-time of the tracker, but aproximately yes  you can check this out: Private Trackers With The Best Pre-Times \| THE source for BitTorrent & P2P Tips, Tricks and Info… \[...\] 33. ##### <cite> Vad </cite> Says: I want to buy tracker invites ScT! 34. ##### <cite> John Connor </cite> Says: Please, anyone could tell me what’s ThB stands for? Or gimme some tip to search for it on google? {: #legacy-comment-list}