This is not a pro-trading manifesto. It is a look at the correlation between ‘traders’ and ‘inviters’, and the overall impact on private trackers, their members and torrent forums.
Through the eyes of a private tracker, there’s really no discerning difference between trading an invitation, or by simply giving it away (publicly) to someone who asks - the fact is, either way it’s against tracker rules. While most reputable “Tracker Invite” sites & forums have now opted to go ‘anti-trading’ in recent times, ‘invite giveaways’ are as popular as ever. But is there really that much of a difference between the two?
Trading vs Giveaways - The Same Thing?
Picture this: I go to a tracker invite forum, and post a giveaway offer. Say, for example, a user called “Mister994″ asks me for my offered invite. Now, Mister994 is a very active member on those forums, so I don’t hesitate to give it away to him. Not only that, but similar to me, he also offers giveaways on a consistent basis. Now, two minutes later, I go into one of his GA threads, and ask HIM for an invite that he’s currently offering. Certainly, he gives it to me, not only because I just invited him to one of my private trackers, but because I’m also a valuable active member. Now, wasn’t this entire two-way transaction just a big fat trade, cleverly disguised as two separate giveaways?! In essence, it amounted to the exact same thing. And it happens all the time.
Trading: A Form Of Currency
One negative connotation associated with trading can easily be summed up by the general consensus that it is, indeed, a form of currency. And since trackers are (usually) non-profit for the purpose of free information, invitations to them are not to be sold (aka. traded) in any way, shape or form. Having said that, many trackers turn a blind eye to invites being so freely swapped and handed out, as it’s a form of publicity that generates new members - new members who may eventually donate to the tracker, or become upstanding denizens. Other trackers, such as What.cd and SaveTheCoratee have aggressively taken the stance of keeping their invites out of such torrent forums - regardless of trade or giveaway. These trackers have come to be known as No-movement trackers.
There’s a great deal of divergence between Torrent Forums when it comes to site policies & rules. Some forums will respect the wishes of trackers that wish not to be listed in their invite giveaways and requests, while others may not; or do not know. Below is an example of the trackers that have contacted ThePirateSociety and requested to be removed from any invite activity. Whilst most forums will likely not have a list as complete as this, it should still be assumed that these are higher-risk trackers and should be either avoided, or handled very carefully:
- • What.cd
- • ScL (clover)
- • iTS
- • x264.me
- • FSC
- • TorrentLeech (TL)
- • TorrentIt (TiT)
- • BitMeTV
- • BitMe
- • LzTr
- • Acid Lounge (A-L)
- • SaveTheCoratee (STC)
- • SyncTheBits (StB)
Private Tracker “Levels” Are Dead (or Should Be)
I’m not sure what all the emphasis is on private tracker “Levels”. Why does the merit of a private tracker weigh heavily on what level that it is in? The inherent categorization of private trackers into specific levels - in terms of rarity, or their degree of difficulty to obtain - has done nothing but propagate trading, and thus collecting. An example of this is clearly shown in the ‘requests’ forums, whereby everyone who knows anything about private sites would sell their firstborn to get into Exigo. Obviously, it’s not for the content of this “high-level” tracker; both What.cd and Waffles easily contain 10 times the number of FLAC torrents, yet everyone “needs” to get an account there. And, of course the naysayers to this theory will mention that it’s such a great community, and it has less to do with the actual content - albeit most of the desire tends to be born out of the rarity, and its assigned level is in direct correlation to this.
Traders vs Collectors
Trading gets a bad name for several reasons, but one of which is the direct connection to tracker collectors. A collector is someone who amasses a large variety/number of private trackers, solely for the purpose of collecting them, most likely for bragging rights. Usually these trackers get unused, or are used only to generate more invites in order to give them away or trade for other trackers. In the case for the latter option whereby these accounts are most often kept in good standing, they’re still not being used for the right reasons. A collected account takes up a slot in which there are ample members who would gladly actually use the tracker (if they could get in), but can’t.
And let’s face it, we’re ALL collectors. No one has just RevoTT. No one has just What.cd. This does not occur in the world of private BitTorrent. Anyone who says you need only one tracker is full of shit.
Traders vs Inviters: A Different Breed?
Usually, traders aren’t overly picky about who they trade accounts with or who they bring into the tracker, as the “who” is much less of a concern than “what” the trade can actually yield through a transaction. For this, most traders won’t bother to ask for ratio proofs
and speed tests
; things of which that are normal customary requests through most invite giveaways. While both of these are somewhat easy to falsify, inviters are more often inclined to ask for a profile link to the actual account of a tracker - something of which that is very difficult, if not impossible, for a scammer to circumnavigate. Additionally, speed tests mean absolutely nothing and offer no real insight behind the user, and should be abolished as prerequisite proof when offering an invite to a prospecting member.
However, when giveaways are conducted properly by incorporating the profile link verification scheme, it offers a viable alternative to direct recruitment, albeit some trackers still argue that this is a no-no, since the tracker (staff) has no control of who gets in.
Site Recruitment Through ‘Community Reps’
Trading, giveaways, or any other method of invite/account attainment (publicly or privately) in which the tracker has no direct involvement is most likely in contrast to their rules. Picking up invites in torrent forums is easy, although somewhat risky. Community-Reps, if you didn’t know, aka ‘Community Representative’ (or CR) is a member - usually staff - of a private tracker who most likely has the ability to invite new members. The “CR” will screen who gets in to the tracker, through a variety of qualifications. Not only is this safe, but also a highly recommended method of achieving an invite. Many trackers have special forums available, usually to Power Users and up, that offer recruitment forum threads, such as What.cd. Torrent Forums are not left out, either; and often have CRs actively looking to recruit new members.
The Bottom Line: Getting Good Members
Shouldn’t the bigger picture be for private trackers to get good members to the site, regardless of how it’s done? While the rule stands that you’re only supposed to invite ‘friends’ to the tracker, they may not always be the best candidate for both the tracker - nor for you, the inviter.
Thus, specialized community trackers will continue to proliferate, and they often have a very limited number of invites, or none at all. Security is paramount; and camaraderie is high - although the drawback is often in the lacking content of the tracker. The tracker-du-jour is a tight-knit group of close members & staffers that employs recruitment to get new members, therefore cutting “invites” right out of the loop, so to speak.
the difference between trades and giveaways is obvious. with trading, you get something in return. what they both have in common is you’re still inviting a stranger, proofs or no proofs. it’s stupid.
I’m against to “trade” and it doesnt go well with p2p. And the difference between and giveaways looks little but its not. its HUGE.
Also i never understand why some trackers against to giveaways (except without speed tests & ratio proofs ones). It’s best way to recruit quality people for trackers. I mean if you dont like it then close invite system and open signups and deal with every kind of people. I do some giveaways (mostly in +pu forums of good trackers) and when i see my invitee’s getting power user & elite user etc.. i feel so happy. Yeah seeding is the key but recruiting good users good as seedboxes
In the article it is explained how a giveaway is most of the time nothing more then a elaborate trade. Also most “giveaway” sites give you some kind of credit to prove that you have been giving away invites… so again your getting something.
But without giveaways I wouldn’t be a member of any of the trackers that I am apart of today.
I apologize for the English, google translate.
In my view the torrents are a great game of strategy, which is always looking further forward, either by exchanging Invites, donations or even shopping.
Where a few have access to the highest level of self (what.cd, FTN …).
What bothers me a lot, is the way that some trackers treat certain countries. In my case, Demonoid that blocks the ips Brazilians, and also other trackers.
That’s my opinion.
Speed Freak Says:
there is ppl dude don’t even remember the ppl they gave them invites …. like me
i even don’t remember that i gave SCT invite the last month :p
Damn it, i must be the unluckiest guy on earth. I just been kicked & banned from sites because i posted ONE post about trading, so i could get into some trackers, but didn’t trade with anyone, and now my REP is 0….and this sucks. Rules should be respected, but this is just too much….
When you whole life revolves around torrent sites….it’s just like dying, like being cut off from the machine that keeps you alive.
i give away invites to scenetorrents, also sceneaccess and torrentleech
Well fuckkers from the p2p communities, you wanted to be l33t as the scene! Well here you have it, except p2p is 100times more unorganized and unexperienced from the scene. Trading accounts and giving away invites…great sekkurity. Not that a tracker would really die from having new users…not if its setup correctly…what harm is it to give away invites?
Its not like the governments arent there already…or the narqs…or anyone else for that matter. You will never have sekkurity with p2p and thats a fact. No matter how much you try there is always one factor you cant remove…the human.
So share those invites, stop being assholes and give it all away for free just like the scene gives you food on the table…or are you in some way involved in some other kind of piracy? Take everything and give away a smal chunck…fucking hustlers thats what p2p are…
i want invites to Private trackers,and willing to pay,if the price is right and you accept paypal.
people might think I’m lame paying for a invite,
but if I’m willing to pay for a invite then I’m going to be a good user because i don’t want to throw my money away
thanks guys, drop me a e-mail if you wanna do a deal
Weak Article Says:
You seem to always have some arrogant fucking comment to make. You’re a loser man, a total fucking loser, and you always will be. You can take your super cool scene and stick it right up your stupid asshole, you elitist piece of shit.