Anti-Piracy Group ‘BayTSP’ Infiltrates TorrentLeech.org
May 14, 09 by sharky 27,663 viewsIf you thought it was only unsafe to download from public trackers - think again. It’s hardly a shock that anti-piracy groups make it a habit to go after users of public torrents, or even the colossal Demonoid tracker. But piracy watchdog group BayTSP, which in large part represents the MPAA and its subsidiaries, has begun to encroach into the private tracker sector. What was once thought, "it can’t happen on a private site" may soon become the norm, as more and more torrenters make the switch to private trackers. This is the story of TorrentLeech, BayTSP, home PC downloading, and a stern warning from my ISP in regards to sharing the latest "Star Trek XI" film.
MPAA Spies in Torrentleech? You Bet!
This is not some scoop submitted by a FSF reader or an acquaintance - it is much more personal, as it directly happened to me. While it’s not uncommon to receive a takedown notice forwarded to my ISP from BayTSP for haphazardly downloading torrents found on public trackers (heck, I’ve probably had dozens of these over the years) but it’s much more alarming when originating from TorrentLeech’s tracker.
Yesterday I received an "abuse complaint" email from my ISP, Rogers Cable Communications. Within, it began:
Dear Sir or Madam:
BayTSP, Inc. ("BayTSP") swears under penalty of perjury that Paramount Pictures Corporation ("Paramount") has authorized BayTSP to act as its non-exclusive agent for copyright infringement notification. BayTSP’s search of the protocol listed below has detected infringements of Paramount’s copyright interests on your IP addresses as detailed in the below report…
It continues to outline the exact infringing file and time of offense:
Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 22-50195397
Infringed Work: Star Trek XI
Protocol: BitTorrent
Infringers IP Address: xx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Infringer’s DNS Name: …cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
Infringing FileName: Star.Trek.TS.XviD-DEViSE
Infringing FileSize: 1487845506
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 13 May 2009 15:16:00 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 13 May 2009 15:16:00 GMT
But how can this be, since I avoid public trackers like the plague. I clicked on the accompanied "admit guilt" link (which I wouldn’t suggest you should ever do), in order to ascertain more information about the source of the message. Within, it lists http://tracker.torrentleech.org - clear proof that BayTSP has burrowed their way into TL’s tracker.
Wha?!? Does this mean that MPAA/BayTSP staffers & affiliates have accounts at popular (or even rare) private tracker communities? In a word - Yes. And how did they get there? We invited them, naturally. And you can bet they keep great ratios, too - begging the next question: How do they do it without breaking their own righteous legalese claptrap? Who knows; the MPAA/RIAA are above even their own copyrights in which they ever so ineffectively attempt to protect.
Protect Yourself on Private Trackers
Private tracker usage does not make torrenters more secure than regular public folk. I just proved it… err, they proved it for me. Keeping your private tracker traffic private requires a little more than just using PeerGuardian.
• Use a seedbox, and stop torrenting from your home PC. A seedbox is a sure-fire method to keep your real IP address out of the torrent. Fact is, seedbox providers receive these same takedown notices all the time, and it doesn’t overly concern them. It won’t concern you, either.
• Use a VPN service to anonymize your traffic. If you must torrent from your home PC (without a third-party seedbox), then use a VPN service to anonymize your torrent traffic. It’s effective and generally more affordable than a seedbox. Some VPNs are specific to P2P/torrent traffic such as TorrentFreedom & Ivacy, or even a SOCKS proxy such as SuperChargeMyTorrent.
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01 • zzenn Says: 14.05.09 at 6:34 pm
Oh I bet this small post will spark a shitstorm if there isn’t one brewing already.
02 • PwndByES Says: 14.05.09 at 6:35 pm
OSHI-
03 • Echoes Says: 14.05.09 at 6:36 pm
Well that’s not great news. Guess there’s no way to track down users from Anti-piracy groups on TL :\
04 • a/s/l Says: 14.05.09 at 7:04 pm
i was *this close* to downloading that very file from there. glad i didn’t. got it from an “extremely private, mixed content site” - if you know what i mean.
05 • oromis Says: 14.05.09 at 7:05 pm
seedbox ftw
06 • Dellum Says: 14.05.09 at 7:13 pm
Are you in Canada?
07 • thesun Says: 14.05.09 at 7:20 pm
the beginning of the end
and do they give letters in Canada
08 • Frozen Tears Says: 14.05.09 at 7:20 pm
What a lame ass faggots BayTSP are?
Can’t they let us live in peace?
09 • anon-sbi Says: 14.05.09 at 7:22 pm
“And you can bet they keep great ratios, too - begging the next question: How do they do it without breaking their own righteous legalese claptrap?”
Maybe by cheating…
010 • MKZ Says: 14.05.09 at 7:23 pm
Rogers is a Canadian company so I assume he is in Canada,I used to use rogers and had received a few complaints way back when I used public trackers but never from a private tracker,looks like the MPAA is getting madder.
011 • rillo Says: 14.05.09 at 7:32 pm
Viva la seedbox!
012 • SnarKeD Says: 14.05.09 at 7:37 pm
It’s not surprising at all, when you see all these stupid private tracker members giving away invites like cookies even on public tracker invite forums…
We can all thank them if one day trackers like T-L are closed, and if one day you gave away an invite to a total stranger on a public site or even on a private one but without checking on the guy…then you can give yourself a big slap in the face, because it’s your only fault if RIAA and such are in the place, and a big slap or even a good kick in the nuts is all you deserve.
013 • rillo Says: 14.05.09 at 7:50 pm
privatized sites aren’t any safer than public sites, some dweebs got it in their head that a private site is a shelter from the rest of the world where they can download safely, Guess Again! the real difference is quality, content and speeds. not sure where the safe haven notion comes from….
014 • hmm Says: 14.05.09 at 7:56 pm
Here’s how I see it. TL used to be a really good “private” tracker at one time. For the past year, It has really just become a wide open “private” public tracker. This site is used as rarely as possible by me and most I know. That being said, my suspicions about TL have now been proven and it will be interesting to see how much longer it stays open.
015 • Yooz Says: 14.05.09 at 8:04 pm
Seedboxes aren’t always safe I think. Even you aren’t the owner of the servers you use, you can be responsible of what you do with it. So it’s maybe a good idea to find some offshore resellers outside you country, and in a place where owners don’t care about a trial for copyright infringement, and won’t collaborate.
016 • Dellum Says: 14.05.09 at 8:13 pm
I hope this happens to the douchebags over at What.cd
017 • Jose JR Says: 14.05.09 at 8:17 pm
Only thing that’s surprising to me is that you experienced this first hand. I heard a few stories like this with tl.
018 • Dixon Says: 14.05.09 at 8:29 pm
This is nothing new — I received just such a notice two years ago for downloading a movie on TorrentLeech. The movie was neither a blockbuster nor in theatres – it was a small indie release that had been out on DVD for several months. Interdiction efforts are clearly not limited to major movies.
I’d be surprised if the media companies didn’t have agents within all of the major private trackers. The question is not whether they’re already observing the activities of the various communities, but whether the communities are large enough to warrant their attention. It just so happens that TorrentLeech is sufficiently large that the media companies deem it worth their time to scare a few users. One must simply accept that pirating material comes with the risk (albeit very small) of being caught. There’s nothing that administrators within the communities can do to put a stop to such activities, given that the agents’ use is indistinguishable from that of innocent pirates.
If any major legal efforts were to be launched, most seedbox providers would crumble and hand over customer data. If you’re truly worried, perhaps you should carry out your piracy-related activities with your neighbour’s wireless connection. The ethics are questionable, of course, but then we’re already stealing content, so hey, why not?
019 • Kerry Says: 14.05.09 at 9:59 pm
“I hope this happens to the douchebags over at What.cd”
+1
and bitmetv lol
020 • Ben Jones Says: 14.05.09 at 10:17 pm
This is a surprise to you? Antip2p groups on private trackers? Remind me again what happened at oink, or at elitetorrents. Oh yeah, shut down, because antipiracy companies are on them.
If you REALLY think they’re not on private trackers, you’re utterly clueless.
Here’s a little piece I wrote on the subject more than TWO YEARS ago. http://neuron2neuron.blogspot.com/2007/03/private-protection.html
Everyone that knows this subject knows this article is the classic ‘dog bites man’ story. It’s nothing new, certainly not ‘news’
021 • Andrew Says: 14.05.09 at 11:10 pm
What’s wrong with what and bitmetv?? They are 2 of the best trackers
022 • 5y01d Says: 15.05.09 at 12:32 am
Exactly. It’s like you have a grudge against what.cd just because they’re a “large” tracker and stupid for being large because they’ll garner attention.
Firstly, their intention (creatively) is to be large, and secondly, they’re the opposite of stupid, if you knew the steps they take to protect the site and themselves (the staff) you would be mightily impressed.
I’m not sure they would be taken down very easily.
023 • F.YO.COUCH Says: 15.05.09 at 12:43 am
Dellum, if you werent a little bitch you wouldnt hate on what. You probably got booted for beeing a leech or a fag. Kerry, you are even worse. Faggot.
024 • SG Says: 15.05.09 at 1:36 am
Yooz, you would have to be an idiot to get a server in your own country! Stating that you are no more safe on a private tracker then a public tracker is such an asinine statement. Your basing this off someone getting a letter using TL. LMFAO I don’t consider TL very private. Just because you have to enter your name and a password doesn’t make it private. Their too big, they advertise and they are asking to get shut down!!!!
025 • bestvalueb Says: 15.05.09 at 1:55 am
i don’t think using seedboxes are totally safe as well b’c when push comes to shove, the seedbox providers will turn over the users details (paypal details etc) to save their own skin.
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027 • O god Says: 15.05.09 at 2:44 am
Oh god!
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028 • heh Says: 15.05.09 at 2:47 am
umm.. it’s all very well telling people to use a vpn but that’s banned on many torrent sites and WILL get you banned too if they find you hiding your IP
just a warning
029 • Anonymous Says: 15.05.09 at 3:12 am
Buy A Seedbox: http://superseeder.co.cc/Home.html
Use FTP To Download From The Seedbox to Home So no-one knows what you are doing.
030 • guest Says: 15.05.09 at 3:59 am
Private Tracker + Seedbox + VPN Encrypted = FUCK MPAA
031 • Diji1 Says: 15.05.09 at 4:19 am
Ok, so it’s certainly not all that surprising to me and I’ve heard of warnings issued at other private trackers - not often but I’ve heard of it.
As far as the private being safer than public issue, this is how I look at it. BayTSP get paid by industry bodies to send out these notices - or at least that is my assumption, pretty sure I read that they did. So if this is the case then put yourselves in the shoes of Bay TSP: it seems to make more sense to go after large public tracker users if only because there’s much more chance of getting a “hit” on a file + user. So technically private is no different as far as safety goes but perhaps one is much less likely to recieve a C & D notice from a private tracker swarm.
As far as BayTSP agents transferring copyrighted files I would assume they have the permission of the copyright owners to do so. It would surprise me if they didn’t.
032 • Diji1 Says: 15.05.09 at 4:23 am
I should add that seeing as it usually takes more “work” to get into a private tracker unless it’s open for signups this is also another reason that private is “safer” (in practicality, not technically as I noted above) as it takes more man hours to enter which means they could be off earning money from easier to touch targets right.
033 • brian Says: 15.05.09 at 5:16 am
Get a SEEDBOX!
034 • X2MAN Says: 15.05.09 at 5:18 am
After learning this I immediately got a seedbox.
http://www.epicseeds.com has great prices
035 • lol Says: 15.05.09 at 6:49 am
haha, Star.Trek.TS.XviD-DEViSE
that’s what you get for downloading some retarded non scene torrent
036 • Anonymous Says: 15.05.09 at 6:53 am
Star Trek….. n00bs
037 • MEnotYou Says: 15.05.09 at 8:01 am
If you use a VPN service though.. to anonymize your ip address, you will not be allowed to use it on Bitmetv… they dont’ allow it
038 • Jon Says: 15.05.09 at 8:14 am
What exactly makes you think that using a seedbox or a premium VPN makes you safer? Seedbox and VPN providers can be forced to turn over customer information just like your ISP.
039 • Joey Says: 15.05.09 at 8:23 am
Nothing will ever happen ! 1torrent site goes down 20 rise up!
040 • metal freak Says: 15.05.09 at 8:54 am
if you really think that they have not infiltrated these sites before now then you are sadly mistaken and have believed the bullshit that has been going on since private sites started appearing in 2002…
i have been running a site since then and saw all these private sites appearing gaining mega memberships on the lie that they were safer…
when bullshit is said often enough and by enough ppl its believed…..
041 • Gargamel Says: 15.05.09 at 9:23 am
“Star.Trek.TS.XviD-DEViSE
that’s what you get for downloading some retarded non scene torrent”
I dont see what difference it makes whether it’s scene or p2p; it’s not like BayTSP cares is it … but in any case Devise are known for very high quality releases - actually their internal ruleset achieves higher quality than the equivalent scene rulesets.
042 • Grant Says: 15.05.09 at 9:26 am
OMFG, tell me I’m not seeing this… you’re downloading CELINE DION for Christ’s sake. Man, seriously, what have you dont to yourself!
043 • breal Says: 15.05.09 at 9:56 am
I though the Celine Dion was a snapshot of BayTSP app at first not sharky
I was going to say anyone downloading that and must be Bay TSP….lol
044 • Dunlopzu Says: 15.05.09 at 10:28 am
Sweden used to be a great place for filesharing, But now our goverment is killing this country byte by byte
Not joking, Soon it’s time to leave sweden 
045 • Coronel Cortez Says: 15.05.09 at 12:39 pm
How they maintain their ratios?
Simple!
The work for Paramount Pictures? Share paramount pictures!, of course they have their permision to do that.
046 • breal Says: 15.05.09 at 1:05 pm
I though when they have to signup to a tracker they have to agree to a statement that they don’t belong to these organizations . ..I am sure I saw this on a few site where it say as part of the agreement they don’t belong to any anti-piracy groups.
Then you have to click on the Agree button..Yes or No…If you click NO you can not signup
047 • breal Says: 15.05.09 at 1:14 pm
You see how this User Agreement. reads
I never ever took the time to read one but I think there is something there saying
this very thing
http://the-monkey-house.com/useragreement.php
048 • b2b Says: 15.05.09 at 3:01 pm
I would hardly call TL a private tracker. probably has close to 100k members. Ive heard of people getting notices from tl, bitsoup, ilovetorrents and even sct. Any site you can easily pay or trade to get an invite can be compromised.
049 • HackedServer Says: 15.05.09 at 4:42 pm
They are representing those companies to stop copyright infringement. I’m sure its save to assume they have permission to download files to catch people, and even if it isn’t, they could just download the NFO and get IPs, you could claim that you only downloaded the NFO, but I doubt it would hold.
A seedbox is much safer, especially if they are in countries where the US doesn’t have much of an influence. You ISP will hand over your details without a second thought, a company in Romania let say, where there is no legal jurisdiction, won’t give a crap what some American or Sweden law says and won’t turn over you details.
The owner of my seedbox lives in another country all-together, so there is another layer of law that would need to be fought though to get to me, so I feel pretty safe.
But think how easy is it to get into private trackers, you only need to spend a little time and know a few people to get in, now imagine you are paid and work 8 hour days just doing that, they are probably in all the big trackers.
HackedServer
050 • lightcatcer Says: 15.05.09 at 4:43 pm
though ive never heard of anything like this, i definitely am not surprised that stuff like this happens
this happens in private trackers due to ease of getting an invite now in the public and private invite giveaway forums
please just give invites to friends you know either irl or over the net from irc/forums, and stuff like this won’t be so easy for antiP2P
also, this is why selling invites is HORRIBLE. $65 and a completely secure small elite tracker gets infiltrated and taken down
051 • Anonymdude Says: 15.05.09 at 7:11 pm
I’m hardly surprised. TorrentLeech is a huge, huge site with probably over 100K members (200K is the number I remember). After OiNK it was clear such huge private trackers are not more secure than public ones. Only the smaller sites who keep tabs on their members are really secure, not to mention aren’t really targets for anti-p2p organizations due to the completely negligible number of members using them.
052 • Sophie Says: 15.05.09 at 9:11 pm
Well if anyone is to blame for giving the Anti Piracy information so that they can hurt people, then it is sites like this one, which tells the whole world where everyone is, right down to their urls.
If you had one ounce of sense, then you would take down this site immediately, then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if you work for them, as you seem to be doing alot of damage to the very people you claim to be looking out for.
053 • bob Says: 15.05.09 at 9:36 pm
It’s not illegal for the MPAA and co to download material.
Copyright infringement is UNAUTHORIZED reproduction. They most likely have some agreement with those companies that grants them authorization to do what they do..
054 • ROGERS?!?!?! Says: 15.05.09 at 10:48 pm
Cmon man, Rogers??? they’re worse than bell by a long shot, absolute lag at night cause every1 shares the cable line and dl’s porn and they’ve always been sending out emails like that. worst thing yet is the max 95gb a month which i proly dl in less than a week, and 95gb is only if you get their $60/mp package. it’s BS i tell you. get tekksavy, WAY BETTER than primus, bell, or rogers combined.
http://www.teksavvy.com
http://www.dslreports.com/comments/2564
055 • Ddgun Says: 16.05.09 at 4:26 am
It’s a joke, son !
—->
http://dwarfurl.com/e3afa
056 • bryan Says: 16.05.09 at 8:40 am
“Star.Trek.TS.XviD-DEViSE
that’s what you get for downloading some retarded non scene torrent”
you fucking retard….scene hasent even released a comparable copy of this movie, and if youve watched this copy you would know its an excellent ts/cam. go back to suprnova
and private IS in theory safer than pubs, yet they rely on the integrity of the members choices for invites. So if people arent fckin dumb and hand them out to “friends”, then it sure is safer than downloading off a random swarm of people. (have sex with people your friends have fucked, have sex with random person in NYC subway station…mmhhh your call)
and stop hatin on what.cd or even TL for that matter, And bitmetv. obvy you couldnt get an invite or they booted you for flamin or cheatin or something retarded. While there are def “better” and “faster pre time” torrent communities, there a OK.
sigh(lol) :-0
057 • bryan Says: 16.05.09 at 8:42 am
and about not having authorization to download, think about the DEA buying drugs off peepz and then bustin them. Same idea
058 • Anonymous Says: 16.05.09 at 11:52 am
Fuck What and BitmeTV. You people getting all upset are probably staff there. They are great trackers but their staff are a bunch of jackasses. I don’t wish them to get shut down but they are run by dicks. I should know. I had the unfortunate experience of dealing with them.
059 • Carl Says: 16.05.09 at 12:08 pm
…and we all devolve five-ten years…
060 • Jesus BaR Joseph Says: 16.05.09 at 3:13 pm
TL doesn’t even advertise on private websites. It’s one of those websites that relies on the obscurity of its name to keep it secure.
It just goes to show that you can’t download “anything”, even on private trackers, without having to deal with some flack. If you can’t handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Just my 2 cents.
061 • lol Says: 16.05.09 at 5:07 pm
What’s the big fuss?
Did you stop and think that maybe the moron who received the letter didn’t disable DHT? Or maybe the member of DEViSE added a public tracker url when creating the torrent?
Both these things would allow a person to view the ip’s of the TL members leeching that torrent without even being registered.
@ the people hating on what: Everybody knows that What is the best music source so don’t try and hate on it just because you faggots hit and ran a little too much.
062 • ShadowTek Says: 16.05.09 at 5:25 pm
FYI, the TorrentFreedom VPN is a scam, and I’m surprised that this site would even link to those jack@sses.
If you want to add a *real* VPN to the list, stick Boleh in there.
http://www.bolehvpn.net
063 • burstbox Says: 16.05.09 at 5:57 pm
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064 • burstbox Says: 16.05.09 at 7:11 pm
Plus free access to files that are allready online
065 • dent Says: 16.05.09 at 8:04 pm
only one intellignt comment so far
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055 • Ddgun Says: 16.05.09 at 4:26 am
It’s a joke, son !
—->
http://dwarfurl.com/e3afa
thx for the link m8
066 • pyro Says: 16.05.09 at 8:14 pm
lol, downloading in Canada is legal.
067 • DEEZNUTZ Says: 16.05.09 at 8:17 pm
what people need to start doing is never buying shit ie… DVD’s CD fuck them…. the only thing that keeps them going is our money, and now they have grown to fuck us with our own money from buying their dvd’s and cd’s pass the word around this is the internet for gods sake… god knows we know how to use it better than those retards..
068 • pyro Says: 16.05.09 at 8:30 pm
” Anonymous Says: 16.05.09 at 11:52 am
Fuck What and BitmeTV. You people getting all upset are probably staff there. They are great trackers but their staff are a bunch of jackasses. I don’t wish them to get shut down but they are run by dicks. I should know. I had the unfortunate experience of dealing with them.”
Good riddance to you. Who would want someone with your attitude to be part of a great community.
069 • Solaris Says: 16.05.09 at 8:39 pm
I hate Rogers. Go to Bell people!
070 • El Flamo Says: 16.05.09 at 9:55 pm
My friend received half a dozen warning letters from Rogers since 2007 for downloading, they don’t do shit and can’t do shit. Rogers & Bell have bandwidth limits on all there plans, 100GB max + $1.50 per 1GB.
That’s like downloading an extra 200GB and you’ll be paying $300.00 more on top of your regular bill. It use to cost approx $50.00 for almost the same crappy speeds and unlimited bandwidth.
To the RIAA, MPAA, BayTSP, You’ll never catch me alive bitches!
And to the what.cd / private tracker haters, ha ha to you for getting booted out, lame ass disrespectful freeloading ratio cheating leeches.
*Downloads shitty quality Star Trek*
071 • colin Says: 16.05.09 at 10:33 pm
Don’t hate on what. #1 music tracker for a reason.
072 • Pepe Says: 16.05.09 at 10:51 pm
Shut the hell up you kiss asses. What.Cd are a bunch of jag-offs. You can be the #1 music tracker and still have a bunch of A-holes running it. GREAT TRACKER RUN BY HORRIBLE PEOPLE.
073 • adolf! Says: 17.05.09 at 5:51 am
torrentleech is as public it can get.
only newbies there anyway
074 • ATC SysOP Says: 17.05.09 at 12:19 pm
oh shit
Proxy leeching should be allowed
075 • bryan Says: 17.05.09 at 12:37 pm
“Shut the hell up you kiss asses. What.Cd are a bunch of jag-offs. You can be the #1 music tracker and still have a bunch of A-holes running it. GREAT TRACKER RUN BY HORRIBLE PEOPLE.”
chain of command my friend. private means their rules. private means they “let” you in. , privates have a “rules page”. an army private sure as fck aint gonna bitch for not being able to do whatever he pleases. if you cant deal, go pub, honestly your making the community your leaving a better place.
sigh…hate being a h&r flamer nOOb h8er but DAMN some of these comments are so stupidly retarded
076 • Pepe Says: 17.05.09 at 1:29 pm
Shut the hell up Bryan. Don’t get all emotional over a tracker. You must work for What… which automatically makes you a jag-off.
077 • Anonymous Says: 17.05.09 at 1:35 pm
What.cd sucks.
078 • Anonymous Says: 17.05.09 at 2:42 pm
P2P sucks
079 • You cant be that Stupid Says: 18.05.09 at 2:14 am
Seriously you cant think that they don’t have the best access imaginable, in relation to trackers, servers etc you have to live by one code, if you know about it others do to.
In relation to torrentleech, one of the largest paysites on the net, of course they would have access to it. Having read through a few articles on this site it has been published many a time that the owners state that it costs 6,000 pounds a month in server costs, coupled with the fact that users cant browse the user list ‘which one could only state that they are trying to hide the large amount of pay-to-leech members that they have.
To be honest im suprised it has taken this long for them to come into the internet limelight, though one could easily assume that they would have been under internal scrutiny for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.
In regards to these people downloading content, its pretty obvious that they would have expressed rights from their clients in order to do so, this enables them to download and verify the content, such as what was done on elite torrents
080 • bryan Says: 18.05.09 at 6:09 am
lol work for what.cd …… (chuckles)
thanks pepe…that + my morning coffee is all i need to wake up today ha just cause im an avid user of an awesome site n support it doesn’t mean im a “staffer”.
what.cd like ninjavideo… two great sites that ya gotta keep your shit in line. once again if you dont like how they treat you..mmh DONT use the forums lol
081 • Pepe Says: 18.05.09 at 8:53 am
I’m sorry Bryan…I didn’t understand your last post as I don’t speak the language of jag-offs. Maybe I need to brush up on it. I am thinking of taking a night course in the fall. Either that or working for What.cd should help me communicate better with you in the future.
082 • RIAAtard Says: 18.05.09 at 12:26 pm
Roger’s sends letters because of their association with Time Warner in the US. They just pass on the info though they legally can’t give up your info as it is against the law to do so in Canada and your not required to respond in anyway to the letters sent. The head of the RCMP here has already stated he will not chase file sharers unless you start printing your own DVDs for resale. P2P in Canada is legal at this time and we pay a tax on blank media, ipods, etc to offset the costs of piracy.That decision has been in place since 03. If you want to know more Micheal Giest has a good blog on the status of P2P as it relates to Canadians.
As for the public / private tracker debate on security private trackers are safer. Limited membership, snatchlist etc make it harder for enforcement to fly under the radar. Public trackers are plagued with copyright holders harvesting info not to mention the spyware and viruses uploaded all the time which is something you never get at a private site. Folks that badmouth the private sites are generally the ones that got banned off them.
083 • webby Says: 18.05.09 at 2:23 pm
now forgive me for being thick, but what does this mean to TL users?
084 • Yatti420 Says: 19.05.09 at 1:18 am
I think you need to check your PG2.. Please make sure you have PROPER lists loaded.. I’ve only ever received one letter and thats when my PG2 either crashed and was down or I was being lazy.. I don’t really see the difference in this case.. Public vs Private I don’t think really matters.. These companies burrow in very deep.. The fact we all get so many hits in programs like PG2 is astonishing to me even to this day..
085 • sharky Says: 19.05.09 at 2:36 am
look like they infiltrated this site too
no new topic for five days
086 • MrOrange Says: 19.05.09 at 10:51 pm
Well Sharky, your poor DLing tactics is why you got your letter. So many people talk big and so few can deliver.
Myself, your now an ass-line joke for a few weeks. Nothing personal, but if it gets a laugh, well, I am all over it.
You can’t take FSF serious can you ? It’s all about pluggin who ever pays the most,not whom is the superior service.
Ciao ladies,good luck. Continue talking shit over this or that tracker ,God knows it matters…..rofl
087 • abcd Says: 20.05.09 at 6:28 pm
Nirvana and Celine Dion in the same uTorrent? You should get a notice just for that.
088 • E Says: 21.05.09 at 10:11 am
oh what a thread .
089 • IB Says: 21.05.09 at 11:40 am
Usenet FTW!!!!
090 • Sean Says: 21.05.09 at 4:28 pm
The question is: do you still download?
091 • cj Says: 22.05.09 at 2:23 pm
who cares ,, go to the cinema if you are worring about these bunch of inbreds
092 • ANONYMOUS Says: 27.05.09 at 7:00 pm
Who the hell uses TL anymore anyway? I hardly EVER use it anymore, like once a month or less. TL is no more private than Demonoid nowadays…
093 • negatyve Says: 28.05.09 at 10:47 pm
Funny story. This blog was posted to the Torrentleech forums. I replied, telling of how I received 2 DMCA notices in the span of 2 months. In response to my reply the staff gave me a warning and attempted to publicly embarrass me in the forums by saying that I, along with everyone else who’s received DMCA notices, have DHT and PXE enabled and there is no infiltration. I am an extremely experienced torrenter of almost 7 years. I am PU or higher on 18 private trackers. I know what DHT/PXE are and they’ve been disabled for years. It’s just unfortunate that the staff would avoid addressing this problem, instead opting to try to save some face by punishing and embarrassing users that have almost 3TB of bandwidth invested into their tracker.
The most entertaining part of this situation being that their suggestion that DHT/PXE is the cause simultaneously suggests that they’re too incompetent to code their upload page to block torrents that aren’t flagged private.
094 • eatshit Says: 30.05.09 at 7:27 am
what.cd forever
095 • pat Says: 31.05.09 at 6:33 pm
yeh it was only a matter of time, anything to do with trackers go through my server, and Andrew whats wrong with whtacd and bitmetv, ill tell ya, there admin are a bunch of arragant assho**s who need some manners beat into them
096 • pat Says: 31.05.09 at 6:50 pm
@ the people hating on what: Everybody knows that What is the best music source so don’t try and hate on it just because you faggots hit and ran a little too much.
hey ya idiot
do you now how many people whatcd are banning for x seeding, i know two people who were banned for just that, said they were ratio cheaters, i went in there irc to ask why and was treated terribly, they a bunch of retards who wont admit that sometimes they may be wrong, and bitmetv do exactly the same, reason being is that they want the new members who are over the moon and get there wallets out and donate, i spend time in all my trackers irc’s and forums and yeh im still a member of both what and bitmetv, what and bitmetv irc’s are horrible as there admin are so damn rude
097 • magneto Says: 19.06.09 at 2:38 pm
Good Blog. Thanx man.
098 • need a little check Says: 11.07.09 at 4:19 am
bmtv mods and admins are cocky assholes that dont give a sh*t about what users say all because they think they are super tough because they have aspired to torrent site admin. They are a bunch of adolescent cowards and super uber power nazis.
099 • Kyle Says: 11.07.09 at 6:22 am
People who use Ninja Video are all fags. If you think that site is clean, you’re pretty daft. There are far better streaming sites out there.
0100 • seanjohn Says: 16.07.09 at 1:09 pm
epicseeds is fail. go with http://www.fastsh.it
0101 • byrdie Says: 20.07.09 at 11:23 am
I use this site a lot, have excellent ratio. I am very pissed about this. The admins have said *nothing* about this. They are going to to pretend it isn’t happening, meanwhile users are thinking they are safe. I realize this is essentially an invite-only public tracker, but this is horrible. Adios TL, you’re on my shitlist.
0102 • anon Says: 15.08.09 at 5:20 pm
This is why people need to turn of DHT…..
0103 • anon Says: 15.08.09 at 5:21 pm
ROFL kyle at better streaming sites, thanks for making me laugh out loud irl today
0104 • dudeWTF Says: 22.08.09 at 1:29 am
This dude doesnt understand the works of torrent AT ALL.
He didnt turn off his DHT so the torrent got picked up by other trackers, including that of the BayTSP.
0105 • Nalle Says: 22.08.09 at 8:08 am
all “private” sites but one (that i know of), operates on the premise that u buy (oh excuse me donate) upload credit. and how will they get new suckers to pay those ridiculous server costs they claim they have? ofc by opening signups and have an invite policy thats laffable at best (they fking shower u with invites, good bye to anything remotley “private”)
u dont have to be a “professional” to get in to just about any site. and if ur willing to donate or are on a page.. it must be even less of a hassle..
the time a torrent site was private is loooooong since gone. its all about generating money nowdays. which atleast to me is sickening. i hope they all get carted off to jail for making a profit off warez (which always was a really good way to get the “feds” attention even before internet and torrents)
0106 • Nalle Says: 22.08.09 at 8:15 am
also dudewtf.. its u thats clueless as to how torrents works… all “private” torrent sites have DHT turned off by default in the torrent. doesnt matter if u have DHT on or off.. no1 outside the tracker u downloaded the torrent off can get in on the “action” .
so before u claim to know anything, atleast try to get a clue plz.
0107 • :X Says: 23.08.09 at 8:33 am
I have over 90 torrent accounts. Even the most rare 0-2000 member trackers have been penetrated. It’s simply not possible to secure a torrent site the way trackers are currently organized. Any honest staff member will admit that.
Also, this is nothing new. It’s called a scary letter. Throw it in the trash.
0108 • neverever Says: 27.08.09 at 10:28 pm
Haha good luck explaining that to every nerd/wannabe/retard on The Internet,with their CNAP and security degrees.
For the ones that do not understand the principle and how a torrent site works,better go delete your fucking account and leave the rest of us alone,instead of spreading any kind of shit your brain can think about ^__^
0109 • nothingIsSecure Says: 16.10.09 at 4:32 am
:X
Agreed
Anyone who is active in the torrent community (and has been for period of time) should know that you can never be 100% secure when transferring data from one peer to another. It is impossible to do so.
Persons who download/upload torrents on any tracker should know this…and using certain apps/filters, (i.e. using PeerGuardian or worse yet PeerBlock), however flashy they may seem cannot make anyone immune from being monitored.
If you don’t want to be targeted by RIAA or like minded organizations then don’t download torrents.