When you’re good at your job, there will always be a demand for your services. FraMeSToR, a popular movie encoder ‘P2P group’ who was “internal” at Bit-HDTV announced that they’re stepping down from that tracker. That’s a bitter pill to swallow for Bit-HDTV no doubt, but the good news is FraMeSToR has now joined forces as an internal on HDME.eu - a fast-growing HiDef tracker. And the news gets better: FLAWL3SS has also become an internal at HDME for their 720p releases - and to welcome in these new groups, HDME has decided to open registration for a very limited time.
**Update: 21:00 GMT 2010-06-08
** - Public registration is now closed.
Registration to HDME.eu will be open from 0900 GMT today (Monday) until the following night. There are fewer than 5,000 membership slots available; and thus signups may close early.
The FraMeSToR Announcement:
A few days ago, FraMeSToR made this formal announcement on their own forum:
Hello FraMeSToR Fans.
By first I would like to thank everyone for the support you all have been given us. We started out only 7 months ago and now FraMeSToR is a well respected group thanks to our large growing fanbase and loyal supporters.
Now to get to the point of this thread. Yes, the rumours that are going around are true. We are leaving bit-hdtv. Before there is going to be any confusion let me say that we’re not leaving because of rub-ins with the staff or users. In fact everyone has always been good to us since day one we were internals there. The reason for us leaving is that there was no room to expand. Lately we were getting a lot of PM’s asking if there were other places to get our releases since bit-hdtv’s sign-ups were closed and the invites didn’t work either. The people of hdme.eu came to us with some very nice conditions and possibilities wich we couldn’t refuse so a move was unevidable. That’s why as of monday, we will be releasing our encodes directly to hdme.eu. Also, our collegue group FLAWL3SS is going to join our ranks. They will be our 720p equivalent and we will collaborate in encoding and developping methods and ways to make the HD encoding scene grow even better then it is now. Just wait and see.
We would also like the opportunity to thank bit-hdtv, it’s staff and it’s community for all the support and good comments and suggestions they gave us regarding our encodes. You helped FraMeSToR grow to what it is now and that takes a huge part in the FraMeSToR history.
Any questions? Feel free to ask.
The FraMeSToR team
Truth be told, FraMeSToR left Bit-HDTV because they refused to open signups or allow members to use their invites. And who are we to blame FraMeSToR? It’s appreciative to have your hard work exposed to a wider audience - which is impossible when a tracker goes into lockdown mode as a closed society. In a twist of irony (whether the decision was related to FraMeSToR or not) Bit-HDTV apparently did re-enable their invite system recently.
To make some clarification from the above announcement, future FraMeSToR releases will only be available exclusively at HDME. As typical for the group, these will be 1080p encodes. FLAWL3SS, a popular group that is ‘internal’ at IPTorrents will continue to release XviDs there, but will work side-by-side with FraMeSToR at HDME with their own brand of 720p releases. The FLAWL3SS announcement below explains their stance more clearly:
The FLAWL3SS Announcement:
FLAWL3SS contacted FSF right before we published this article; they wanted to inform IPT members of the upcoming changes to their uploading status. Apparently IPT rejected (or deleted) such a forum post that was made on IPT since it’s forbidden to discuss other sites in their forums (isn’t that fucked?). Anyhow, here’s the original FLAWL3SS message:
I posted this message at IPTorrents.com today and since they do not allow advertising or mentioning other sites i can not post it but was told I can notify file share sites so I come to you with this exclusively from us.
To: All our beloved HD Fans.
Effective Monday June 6, 2010
On behalf of The FLAWL3SS Release Group we would like to inform you of the following changes to our group.
In an effort to expand our HD portion of our group FLAWL3SS will be making some changes in order for us to expand, we will be separating our HD x264 from Xvid and SD x264.
In order for us to complete the expansion of the HD portion of our group we will become HD Internal Encoders at HDME.eu for our x264 720p’s.
This is a joint venture with FRaMeSTor, one of the best 1080p encoding groups in the world as we partner up and release 720p and they release the 1080p equivalent.
All of our other content will continue to be released as we do now.
For invites to HDME.eu visit: framestor-hd.org
FLAWL3SS Release Group
A Quick Recap of HDME.eu
HDME - Stats:
- URL: http://hdme.eu
- Online since: 2009-03-01
- Alexa Rank: 70,241
- Registered Members: 17,070
- Torrents: 4,615 (4,310 active)
- Total Peers: 25,662
- Forum Topics: 3,064
- Forum Posts: 33,532
HDME - Internal Groups:
With the addition of FraMeSToR and FLAWL3SS, HDME now has five internal groups:
• PS3-Team — Joined with HDME as an exclusive internal encoder back in April 2010. PS3-Team’s releases mostly pertain to movies in 1080p (audio: AC3, 5.1CH — source: Blu-Ray) that are compatible with PS3 playback, since the filesizes are kept around the 4GB mark. PS3-Team’s torrent count: 308
• HDME (Group) — Is an internal that releases video content as well as audio (lossless). *Video
:* Mostly 1080p, and the format/container is variable (most are MKV/x264, some are ISOs). *Audio
:* All are lossless FLAC (HQ music) with log files included. HDME’s torrent count: 290
• INtL — Joined early in 2010, INtL puts out both 720p and 1080p (usually a version of each for the same release). Specs on INtL’s encodes can be viewed here at www.intlhd.eu. INtL’s torrent count: 131
• FraMeSToR — HDME already indexes 70 releases dating back to late 2009.
• FLAWL3SS — Just 16 older releases so far, in both 720p & 1080p. Expect a lot more to come
HDME - Freeleech Torrents:
Keeping a good sharing ratio at HDME.eu shouldn’t be a problem: there are more than 1,075 freeleech torrents. Most of everything that’s put out by the 5 internals is automatically freeleech (except for FLACs) and in addition to this HDME’s “bluray” and “packs” categories are free as well. “Free” torrents are clearly marked, although members are able to easily filter the browse to display only freeleech torrents.
HDME Torrent ‘Browse’ page (leech high)
Awesome, just signed up, very good speeds, was getting 65MB/s on my 1Gbit OVH box on a well seeded torrent.
Always alot of drama when internal encoders are involved..
Guess ill jump on hdme.eu for now >.<
couple of second rate encoders joining a second rate tracker. it fits
Quote from HDME announcement:
We have more good news, signups on HDME are now open. Signups are open until tomorrow night (Tuesday) OR until we hit 25K members. After this we wont be having open signups for a very long time….end
And the reason for FraMeSToR leaving bit-hdtv is not having new members and no new room to expand!
But with HDME from their announcement, the reason for FraMeSToR leaving bit-hdtv will be here again after they hit the 25K members!
So IMHO, the real reason for FraMeSToR leaving bit-hdtv is not what they announced unless FraMeSToR members are just a bunch of retards who didn’t think ahead and prefer anonymous members over those quality members at bit-hdtv.
lol of course they had other reasons, the “lack of member signups” is just an excuse.
so within a year they have moved 3 times. talk about loyalty and gratitute to trackers which helped them grow. basically they are just using the trackers as their stepping stones.
won’t be surprised if they leave hdme in a few mths b’c their torrents aren’t made sticky or something stupid as well lol
both groups are deluding themselves on their encoding skills and popularity, which are both at best, just 2nd rate
another lame site LMAO
I was fan of FLAWL3SS but they suck big time now.
They are moving and moving like bitches. from one place to another place.
I better stick with VISION group, F**k FLAWL3SS !!!
HDME always been a very good tracker.
only p2p shit groups
Silver silver Says:
p2p shit… is THE shit
Ronny, neither group have made any exaggerated references to their popularity. You clearly have little or no knowledge about encoding and have just commented on this article to troll.
ps. ViSiON don’t even do x264 encodes
who does vision internal encode for?
FLAWL3SS FAN Says:
FLAWL3SS, did you notice how a retard like Ronny mentioned just 2nd rate encoders on a 2nd rate trackers… lol, this girl has issues with 2nd rate..
Wouldn’t be surprised if Ronny = EuReKA or an other lame encoder ” jealous ” of FLAWL3SS/FRAMESTOR real HQ encodes
well I’ll be moving all the time if every tracker would make me a better offer than the other one, no harm in that, it’s a cold world we’re living in.
Ronny you gay-bitch, check this out, let’s say your profession is a salesman, now an other company is interested in you and offering you a top-management function, what would you say !
Ronnie 1 : naah man I stays real nigga I ain’t no snitch
Ronnie 2 : I’m your man, top salary and a top function !
bet Ronnie 2 right , but still your gay motherfucker…
I am thanks to U my respect to the site
Good luck to both groups and to HDME sounds like a good movie from both sides.
We do not plan on moving for the sake of a “better” deal. This move was done because we wanted to expand on our HD and separate them from our other releases.
There will always be negative comments and that’s alright, we don’t encode for those people we do it for the ones that support us.
Sharky, thank you for the article, supporters thank you as always, haters keep hating.
Also if you want to slam or support either of our groups and you are from another group or an encoder yourself please use the nick and group you are known for don’t hide behind some alias.
@14 you are absolutely right, they moved b’c of a better deal elsewhere nobody’s denying that but please don’t give excuses like “we have too many potential fans who can’t get in the tracker. people aren’t stupid.
@17 hey spinnyboy, i am no hater. in fact i supported both you guys when flawless got into x264 and when framestor uploaded their 1st encode on CHD. but the groups’ actions since then have shown to be ungrateful towards tracker fans and staff who supported you through tough times; but you left on a whim and blame the trackers for everything. so please don’t keep on harping about “we are what we are today b’c of you, the fans”. you didn’t give jackshit about your fans on CHD, Bit-HDTV, or the staff who helped you when your groups were new/growing; only to step on their faces and talk negative about the trackers when leaving. what sort of character does this show about you guys? 3 moves in 12 mths says it all. even whores stay loyal longer.
and i am just a normal user like many thousands of silent others, not a “group hiding behind a name”. btw since eureka was mentioned, what’s the difference between all you guys now? framestor rode the high moral horse that eureka changed trackers like a bitch, yet you are doing the same thing! and even worse (3 times in 12 mths)! what a hypocrite.
get real guys, do what you have to do but don’t give bullshit excuses to cover your ass or insult the intelligence of fans.
@12 are u serious? if the groups aren’t giving “exaggerated references to their popularity” why are giving the excuse that they are moving b’c they “can’t get potential fans into the tracker”? they are clearly deluding themselves into thinking that tens of thousands of “potential fans” are just biting their nails to join up. LOL seriously delusion is the key word here. not even really top class groups like ESiR would be so arrogant to say such things, what more for 2nd rate encoders like both these groups.
Rapidshare Downloads Says:
Pretty interesting read- I’ll be going there from now on I think
Ronny, they never mentioned “tens of thousands of ‘potentional fans’” but there have been a lot of complaints about people not being able to access their encodes on bit-hdtv due to the closed invite system. The lack of invites on bit-hdtv was the primary reason for the move but there are a couple of secondary ones, neither are malicious and both will remain confidential.
I don’t understand why you’re taking it so personally; framestor doesn’t owe anything to bit-hdtv, if anything, it’s the reverse.
ps. Don’t mix flawl3ss and framestor together, they are two separate groups who have made separate actions, please distinctly differentiate between the two if you reply again.
FLAWLthreeSS stuff is pretty good, but I consider everything that runs on my standalone Tvix good
hey spin, i don’t mean anything malicious to both groups, just saying the facts as they are, b’c all we are hearing is how the tracker is at fault for this and that but not a word about how the groups are letting the tracker and its members down. people need to see both sides of the story.
RONNY are you for real cos you just sound like a spoilt prick with no common sence seeing as you have been owned you should stop trying to justify yourself cos its just making you look even more retarded.
We see both sides of the story RONNY! i’m just finding it hard to under stand why you don’t want the groups to expand/grow cos i wanted to get their encodes but i couldn’t get on bit-hdtv nor could my mate invite me with his invite so you my friend are wrong so get off your high hourse.
lmao @THE e-drama above… who cares.. the move is over! Point is both FraMeSToR and FLAWL3SS put out some pretty solid encodes, great quality, and now instead of going to 2 diff trackers to get it FL you can get it all @ HDME.. that is nothing but win if you enjoy their rls imho… I have nothing against them.. they are far better @ encoding than I am lol.. besides if/when I dl a movie that I truly like and want for archiving purposes, I asses every copy I can find for the best quality available, and tbh FraMeSToR ends up being the winner a lot, besides a hearty remux.
Site statistics update:
Online Since: 2009-03-01
User Limit: 25000
Users Online: 816
New Torrents Today: 57
Total Traffic: 9,428,427.85 TB
Total Ratio: 5681.822
Forum Topics: 3,090
Forum Posts: 34,040
I need invite pls…
pls invite 1Gbit UP/DL
Ronny lmao you have no any idea wtf you are talking about do you?
TorrentLeech.org: Our first private tracker we became uploaders on. Great staff and Owner support. Currently active uploaders
IPTorrents.com: Our first semi “internal” tracker, semi due to no restrictions on our ability to upload at other trackers although having our own category and due to the fact that IPT does not allow true “internal” groups. Huge support from site staff and owner whom was aware of our intentions to expand our HD division to a strictly HD site. Currently active uploaders
HDME .eu: New HD internal encoders for our x264 720p HD content.
So where did we move from…seriously?
What we have done is “exactly” as we intended and that is to expand the HD portion of our group, while continuing to serve the needs of all of our fans.
And where did I ever say anything that it was any of the trackers we are associated with fault?
There’s no bs there.
So Ronny, from this point on please stop your nonsensical ranting because you have no clue what you are talking about. And if you would like to continue this conversation you know where to find me, “please” contact me with your “real” nick and I will be more than happy to straighten out your misinformation.
Other than that this article was not intended as a soapbox for anti-F&F although it does give those a safe place to shout without revealing their “known” nicks, which is the nature of the beast.
Thank all of you whom have supported us in the past and on into the future.
@ALL with negative feedback on this move of Framestor to HDME nd FLAWL3SS to expand their encode to HD at HDME but they did not move they still a encoded at IPT and TL with their great Xvid enocdes STFU. If you don’t know the true reason why Framestor move the STFU. All i know in the end you will still get an invite or sign up at HDME so you can get their release and then troll to their release comment like in BHD but the truth is you like the release of both group in terms of HD movies. I’ts a big shame on all those who give negative but still get their movie release. All i can say you are all haters since the group did not move to the tracker you are in already or the tracker you like most. STFU all Haters of Framestor and FLAWL3SS.
- Framestor #1 Fan
Good luck with the move guys, your encodes are ones I watch when I dont do them myself
FLAWL3SS encodes are the only encodes I will d/l onto my server.
Spindocor and his FLAWL3SS team know what the hell there doing, Anyone else’s stuff seems like shit to me,
Other then FLAWL3SS I watch what the scene put’s out, I’m not kidding I upload to TL!
Talk soon Spin,
no one gives a fuck about your delusional reasons. if u think it is perfectly ok to move around trackers like a whore on drugs, then i pity your character.
my last post. no need to reply b’c i won’t be wasting time saying the obvious to people with character defects.
What a hater of FLAWL3SS and Framestor wahahahaha. STFU get a life.
- Framestor #1 Fan
@Ronny. Grow up FFS!
passing by Says:
@025 • RatR@ce Says:
What the hell with these statistics for total traffic, even larger and older private trackers didn’t come close to you!!!!
CHDBITS: 6836 TB
Bit-HDTV: 42,550 TB
HDME: 9,428,427 TB ?????
Please, at least be honest
OK. I don’t get this. We of FraMeSToR and FLAWL3SS are probbably two of the most open minded groups in the HD scene. We even welcome fellow encoders to our board and give them their own space. The reasons for us leaving BHD are there. there’s no more after that. Do the quality of our encodes degrade because of the move? As regards to HDME.eu, yes, maybe they weren’t the most popular HD tracker out there. But aren’t things there to be improved? We are working with the staff to help the tracker grow so yes that is what we also see as expansion. Sometimes it’s needed to start from scartch. We could’ve done 2 things, start our own tracker, wich we were planning to do or accept an invitation from one that is very willing to expand and head into a certain direction and asks for our help. We have no problems (personal) with BHD. In fact, if needed they can still count on us, as we can count on them. There’s always a very good understanding with the staff. But do you guys actually know what’s going on behind the scenes of such places? If not then all this negative criticism should be kept for yourself. We did certain things for the same reason why companies expand or merge. We never considered ourselves elite like other groups do.We share encoding settings and techniques when people ask for them. There is no secret in what we do. We’re just a bunch of wierdos who have a passion for movies and encoding. We don’t ask for fame and glory. If people happen to like our stuff (and aparently they do since HDME has gotten 2k users in 5 days extra since the announcement of the move together with FLAWL3SS). And I think that is all I need to say about the matter. So Ronny, as much as I respect your opinion, I think you should think twice before you put words into someone’s mouth or metnion things that are not there and are not intended. It’s rude. I could start calling you names but then I would actually be just as indecent as you are. No drama, no fuzz. Stick to the facts.
Perfect reply STAL. This should be closed!
http://nobrain.dk/ u can use it alternatively
those guys can invite u to anywhere
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while the guys at framestor and flawless are decent enough, comments like “one of the best encode groups in the world” are just ridiculous. they take this stuff far too seriously. the sooner you people realize that anyone can encode, the better!
some encode as a hobby, some encode for fame and fanboy recognition. sadly both flawless and framestor seem to fall into that catagory. with that inevitably comes haters. deal with it.
i very much doubt they will turn into another eureka though, they do seem to handle criticism well enough, whereas eureka’s gestapo dictator would spit his dummy out. if he wasn’t such a self opinionated, arrogant cunt eureka would still be at bhd today. he only liked people to say “oh rabomil, your p-frames look completely transparent! how do you do it? you are so great! can i lick your balls?!” also his comments on his own encodes of “you can’t go wrong with this encode knowing it is completely transparent to the source” are fucking ridiculous. how are you supposed to know that from a few p-frame comparisons you cunt!?
that’s why he does bd-25’s now, he had nothing to gain by comparing b-frames and now no-one is gonna compare their releases against his 25GB .iso remuxes!
lol, slightly off-topic
also as a footnote, i prefer haters to clueless fanboys. haters usually have more knowledge…
“one of the best encode groups in the world”
As far as encoding “groups” go YES! I stand by that comment and I would also include groups such as CtrlHD, ESiR and a few others to the category best encoding “groups” in the world and the best “individual” encoders list is endless.
We welcome everyone and especially fellow encoders at framestor-hd.org to join us in making p2p HD better. We share as much knowledge as possible with users and people wishing to learn how to encode, if that classifies us as groups seeking Fame and Fan Boy recognition then I have to change my definition.
“they do seem to handle criticism well enough”
For me this wasn’t always the case and I used to fall into the flame game but I have now learned not to engage with “haters” to much as it accomplishes nothing.
“i prefer haters to clueless fanboys. haters usually have more knowledge”
I would much rather have a “hater” pm me if they possess such knowledge and say “Hey Spin I can help you improve your encodes if you are interested” then be a punk and trash talk in a release comment. But if that were the case they wouldn’t be a hater they would be a “colleague” and that would defeat their purpose.
Come share the knowledge you have at http://www.framestor-hd.org
ps. Yes, anyone can encode - and we make that even easier by posting the avisynth script and the x264 settings we use in our nfos
@Ronny you a cock and have no clue about the world of encoding !!!!Both group been around for a bit why dont you show off your SKILLS because you suck ass….I have be next to FLAWL3SS for years and watch them grow so piss off jerk there on a few good trackers and you have no access to them thats why you dis them ..Get a life …..
Hey guys im glad for both of you and I have watch you guys grow and will support you until we cant
Thanks for all you great releases
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considering their large number of fans that couldn’t access their encodes. i think even framestor/flawless would be deeply disappointed with the way things have gone so far on hdme. snatches are down by 80%!
bad move guys….
YOU ALL HAVE NO LIFE MAKING ALL THIS A BIG DEAL, LIVE LIFE U LOW LIVES, U ALL FEEEEEEEENIN FOR MOVIES AND SHIT LIKE DAT, YOU PPL HAVE SAD LIVES, WHO CARES ABOUT INVITES ETC, WHO CARESSSSS OPEN UR EYES ON BIGER THINGS U IDIOTs.